User:Rsterbal/Wikipedia

Because of its presence in the wiki space, mentions of Miraheze on wikipedia are important.

There are established guidelines which limit how we can appear on Wikipedia

We have made some effort to be included on this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services

We will let you know if we want you to express your opinion on it.

A recent conversation about getting back on wikipedia: [23:57] <+Reception123> ponder: myrcx submitted Draft:Miraheze and it failed :( [23:57] <+Reception123> we still need to add some stuf [23:57] <+Reception123> *stuff [23:57] It should fail [23:57] we don't meet the criteria for a wikipedia page [23:58] <+Reception123> I know, but we need to find a way for us to fit the criteria. [23:59] do you want me to outline the process? [23:59] some of the criteria is pretty cut and dried [23:59] some is relative [23:59] the cut and dried stuff is the problem right now [00:00] We need someone to write about us [00:00] We need to be relevant to a fair number of people, maybe with have enough with All the Tropes, but I think that wiki is more likely to be included than we are an internet host [00:01] <+Reception123> Hmm. And who was to write about us? Another notable site, right? [00:02] not a site, a referencable article [00:02] and even that isn't always compeling [00:02] you have to figure out why they wrote about the other notables in our space. [00:02] <+Reception123> No offense, but who cares? I'm sure the marketing teams of the respective companies do, but does anyone else? If so, a source would help. This is an encyclopedia, not a venue for advertising. --Ronz (talk) 14:16, 13 August 2016 (UTC) [00:02] <+Reception123> Yes, the main focus is a source now. [00:02] <+Reception123> But how can we get this done? [00:02] connect with people [00:03] talk about interesting things we have done [00:03] see who covered the other notable organizations in our space [00:03] ask them what it would take to get coverage [00:03] <+Reception123> The most probable would be someone writing about popular wikis (ATT, poserdas, etc) [00:03] That may or may not help [00:04] I used to be on ECHO [00:04] it was run by Stacy Horn [00:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy_Horn [00:04] <+Reception123> Yes but for example they talk about ATT and they say. This is hosted by Miraheze which has ... and ... and which is great, etc. that should help [00:05] not much, a bit [00:05] <+Reception123> !log ran sudo -u www-data php importDump.php --wiki botwikirecoverywiki /tmp/botwikirecoverywiki.xml (but failed) [00:05]  Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master [00:05] make sure you add the links to miraheze whenever it is mentioned [00:06] add all the links to the links page [00:07] <+Reception123> which links? [00:07] <+Reception123> and blogs wouldn't count, right? [00:07] blogs don't generally count, unless they are important [00:08] <+Reception123> ponder: Ok, we only have some coverage there but very little still. [00:08] anywhere we are mentioned, we should add a link to the links page I just created [00:11] <+Reception123> The problem is not the article, it's the comparison page, but that is dependent on the article. [00:13] The comparison page is a disaster by wikipedia's own standards [00:14] <+Reception123> Yes. That's why I replied to Ronz that this page is not even encyclopedic. [00:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_shopping_website [00:14] is a better page [00:15] <+Reception123> Much better. [00:15] so is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients [00:15] we should first fix the page... then try to get ourselves added. [00:15] They may delete the page altogether [00:16] <+Reception123> Yes.. I know that is a chance. But maybe deleting wouldn't be so bad, if we make a category instead. [00:16] <+Reception123> Anyway, it's really unlikely that we get added without creating a page first. [00:16] bah [00:17] if there is a list how does notability matter? [00:17] <+Reception123> ^ exactly, that's what we keep telling Ronz [00:17] the editor can't tell the difference between a list and a page [00:17] we need to fix the page [00:17] then add ourselves to the list if we meet the qualifications [00:18] by showing we meet the criteria for the list [00:19] <+Reception123> !log ran sudo -u www-data /usr/local/bin/foreachwikiindblist /srv/mediawiki/dblist/all.dblist /srv/mediawiki/w/maintenance/runJobs.php on mw* [00:19]  Logged the message at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_admin_log, Master [00:19] <+Reception123> ponder: Yes. The question is, what can we edit on the page? [00:19] follow the model of the other 2 pages [00:20] explain what each column in the list represents [00:20] Why is Alexa rank important [00:20] what are the different content licenses [00:20] <+Reception123> ponder: I don't currently have a lot of time now, but I'll try to get to it later. Maybe get some help from myrcx too. [00:21] how are services paid for [00:21] what effect does that have on the services [00:21] what is a wikifarm [00:21] how does it differ from a host that also offers wikis [00:21] How many extensions are offered [00:22] how many pages are hosted [00:22] how many wikis are hosted [00:22] how do you verify the data [00:23] we need to put this on an item in meta [00:23] can you take care of that? [00:24] <+Reception123> Don't have time now. I'm waiting for the runJobs script to finish and then I will have to leave. [00:24] <+Reception123> I will try taking care of it later. [00:26] just give me a page title [00:27] and may I use your comments? [00:29] <+Reception123> Ok, sure. [00:30] <+Reception123> Title.. Well if it's on Meta maybe your userspace is better.. [00:31] No [00:31] this is crazy\ [00:31] if it is a user thing, it should go in a user's wiki [00:31] (I'm ok with that too)