Talk:Requests for Comment/Changes to the Dormancy Policy

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Is this really necessary
How large is the resource consumption for closed wikis anyway? After all, Wikipedia can fit on a USB stick. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 18:12, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The Dormancy Policy was implemented in 2016, and I would say it is necessary, since even an empty wiki consumes 25 MB from the database. Also, I doubt that Wikipedia in it's entirety (with revisions) can fit on a USB stick. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 18:14, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Many apps, e.g. Kiwix, allow a complete offline dump of Wikipedia (excluding revisions). 25 MB is enough to fit on a floppy disk or my CF card which went into my first digital camera. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 18:24, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * My database dump of Swords of Wrath (including revisions), a small but not insubstantial wiki, is 6 MB. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 18:34, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * One thing is correct, I may have been incorrect about the 25 number, considering some changes to the way we handle tables. However, we get many wiki requests every day, and even though one single wiki seems like it doesn't take much space it all adds up with that many requests. I assume that here you are arguing about the DP altogether, but what is the point for us to keep a wiki that is completely abandoned by its owners anyway? Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 04:58, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, we don't store "database dumps" but the database uses SQL, so there is more space being used in that format. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 05:01, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I have defiantly come back to projects I abandoned years ago and finding some wiki hosting service has razed it to the ground would not leave me with a positive attitude. Hence why I feel it is important to demonstrate that abandoned wikis make up a non-insubstantial part of Miraheze's costs. And while I understand that live wikis are larger than even full revision dumps and that it costs more for web hosting than cloud hosting I find it hard to believe that while it is costing me *does some maths* £16/100,000 MB = £0.00016 * 25MB = *finishes maths* £0.004 to keep my dump on Google Drive for a year it is costing Miraheze dozens of pounds for the inactive wikis that will build up. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 09:05, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * First of all, even though the wikis are deleted after the period, we still keep backups of all wikis (public wikis are available on archive.org), so if you were to come back your wiki could probably still be re-instated nonetheless. XML dumps only take care of revisions and history, while the SQL that is used to run the wiki is more substantial as it has extra information (user tables, extension tables, etc.) so the size is considerably larger. As we function on donations, we need to ensure that our funds are being used well as possible (see Tech:Server usage). Lastly, that is why it is possible to request an exemption, so you don't need to worry about your wiki affected by this policy. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 09:52, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank-you for explaining this, I now understand the reasons behind the policy. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 10:05, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

I am just showing off: I just performed the action "edit" on and the vote flipped from strongest support to strongest oppose. What the helck! LegoMaster (talk Account information: [ block log] – contribs – logs – [ abuse log] – CentralAuth ) 11:01, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * LegoMaster so what? I'm confused. --Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 14:08, 9 May 2019 (UTC)