Requests for Comment/A request to add more admins and stewards


 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Bold close here - RfCs are designed to change and form policies and community direction. The need for Stewards/Meta Sysops is done on a per-user basis and no requirement for an RfC to call for requests is necessary. No matter how this RfC would have been closed, it will not solve or change anything with regards to appointment as users of suitable experience, need, trust and ability have to come forward. If this RfC had set out clear changes to existing policy it would have been suitable to remain open. This RfC sets out hypothetical situations which may or may not be true but currently don't present a serious issue in that as two separate teams, we are in dire need of further help. If anything, we need more support on the technical side in terms of developers and community engagement than Stewards and Meta Administrations. This RfC seeks to make a problem out of a non-issue while ignoring the blatant issues we face as an organisation which is community engagement, funding and support. John (talk) 13:32, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I am LegoMaster, and I am a wiki creator and autopatroller. I always wanted to request admin rights, but I saw [ this page's edit history], and saw that there are not many users who are voting on the page. I sent an email to John Lewis, with the text about the concern of the lack of admins and stewards, and Lewis just said "Admins are elected by the community" which did not fix the problem. The Requests for permissions page is just a page with very little edit history recently except the request made by Fukahire.

The English Wikipedia has 1,179 administrators in 18 years, and that's an average of 65.5 administrators a year. Miraheze Meta has only administrators in 3 years, and that's an estimated of only 3-4 admins per year. Think about that. 65.5 admins per year versus 3-4 admins per year. That's a problem that we need to fix. We have a total of users currently. Despite the percentage of how many users are admins are lower that the English Wikipedia (On the English Wikipedia, the ratio of a user being an admin is one out of 9102.45 users, and on Miraheze Meta, the ratio of a user being an admin is one out of 5824.41 users), the rate of users who are likely to spam will increase in the next few years or so. See the block list for the stats.

For the stewards section, the Wikimedia Foundation has 36 stewards in 18 years currently, and that's an average of 2 stewards per year. Miraheze has 4 stewards in 3 years, and that's an average of 1.333 stewards per year. As the possibility that more open proxies are discovered, and more disruptive users go and sign up, we need more stewards to track the direction of the disruptive user and determine if the user should be locked.

Administrators section: Proposal 1
More administrators are needed to govern the wiki and handle users who are spamming.

Administrators section: Proposal 2
The number of admins are enough to govern this wiki.

Stewards section: Proposal 1
We need more stewards to lock disruptive users.

Stewards section: Proposal 2
The number of stewards are enough to handle the messiness and disruption of the wiki.

Oppose

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